Killucan2 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Lads,meet up with Dave and had a look at the new rtr de Dietrich coaches,he has done a great job on them hope's to have driver trailer/first,diner and standard for Bangor all going well, will be posting pics up on this SITE in the next few day's, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Wow - nice one Mark! If they are anything like his stunning 2600's they will go like hotcakes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Looking forward to seeing them Some good passenger stock is really needed at the moment. I expect they will be up to his usual high standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Any idea of prices as yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killucan2 Posted April 17, 2012 Author Share Posted April 17, 2012 Don't know prices just yet but i will keep u all posted as that will differ (dvt,diner so on)these are not Hornby mk4s as some people might think but a hole new coach with the right body profile and made from brass for better detail,the one's going to Bangor hopefully are demo models. Anyone looking for info can pm me as Dave is busy with family commitments. Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Looking forward to these, can see them being very popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Looking forward to these, can see them being very popular. Especially with the current 8208 model and 230 when it is released. I must say that I am looking forward to the release of 230 as I think the original Enterprise livery really suited the 201's. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
201bhoy Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Especially with the current 8208 model and 230 when it is released. I must say that I am looking forward to the release of 230 as I think the original Enterprise livery really suited the 201's. Rich, Have to say I'd agree with you, though I'd say my favourite livery is either the original ie orange or 208's enterprise livery. I don't like the intercity livery, just looks like they spent about two seconds fitting it with the mk4s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Hi Guys, Thanks to Mark for posting this topic. I'm up to my eyes at the moment! I've had to make a few unexpected mods to the CAD for the etchings so I wont be able to make the Bangor show with a pre prod model. I have assembled and primed a buffet car to give you an idea of what to expect. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
201bhoy Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Wow those opening doors look unbelievable! Do know what the prices will be yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Well done David, they look the part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Wow wow wow wow!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Thanks guys, I haven't finalised prices yet but I'll have them shortly. I need to set up my jigs and time how long it takes to make a rake. All I can say it that they will cost less per vehicle than my 2600s. BTW, that open door is just glued in the open position to show that the doors are removable for ease of painting for when the kit version comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
201bhoy Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Yeah that's fine. Will they not be at the dhow either or is it just you that won't be there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 That's a seriously good looking model Dave and more kudos to you for showing us an example of one of the coaches at an early stage of production. I look forward to seeing some painted examples. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttc0169 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Usual high standard there David-well done,I love the opening door-and have no doubts that the livery when applied will be top class,I'll be in touch. Your 2600's were excellent and I'm very happy with mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Going to sell like hotcakes I dare say to go behind Paddy Murphy's 8208 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) Cheers Rich and Noel. @201bhoy, neither me nor the DDs will be there unfortunately. There is a tiny chance I might make a surprise appearance on one of the days but extremely unlikely. Just hang on a little longer guys, I still have a backlog of railcars to clear off so I'm doing the DD development in my second set of spare time. I also have test etches for the DVT and the standard but they have to be modified slightly before I assemble them. FYI, the coaches will be coupled to each other by a purpose built draw bar that is completely concealed within the lower gangway. The loco end of the set will have a kadee coupling so it will be necessary to fit same to one end of your 201. I can do that for you if you need me to. Edited April 19, 2012 by David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Better and better!! What's the plan for interior detail and glazing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Glazing in going to be tinted glass(acetate) as per the prototype. This more or less negates the need for interior detail. Depending on interest I make look into doing an interior as an optional extra but it would be hard to see on the model unless it was fitted with interior lighting(which depending on interest may be offered as an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttc0169 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Cheers Rich and Noel. FYI, the coaches will be coupled to each other by a purpose built draw bar that is completely concealed within the lower gangway. The loco end of the set will have a kadee coupling so it will be necessary to fit same to one end of your 201. I can do that for you in you need me to. Thats great about the kadee coupler David,just like the real thing-Would it be possible for you to make the coaches a little heavier than your normal coach? My reason for asking is that I have found that when any of my Mk4 coaches were being pushed around my layout by 201s,the coach behind the loco used to derail a lot particularly on curves,After experimenting with different coaches behind the loco I eventually found that by adding some weight to the coach actually helped to keep it on the rails-and no more derailments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killucan2 Posted April 19, 2012 Author Share Posted April 19, 2012 Had a quick look at that other sham of a site I see Pinocchio is looking here and posting up pics of the coaches under one of his so called user names as usual,trying to keep it going but i can't see it lasting long! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killucan2 Posted April 19, 2012 Author Share Posted April 19, 2012 Thats great about the kadee coupler David,just like the real thing-Would it be possible for you to make the coaches a little heavier than your normal coach?My reason for asking is that I have found that when any of my Mk4 coaches were being pushed around my layout by 201s,the coach behind the loco used to derail a lot particularly on curves,After experimenting with different coaches behind the loco I eventually found that by adding some weight to the coach actually helped to keep it on the rails-and no more derailments. TTC, One thing about the Hornby mk4s they are to light and the axels are s---t,but with the different coupling it should be ok. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Had a quick look at that other sham of a site I see Pinocchio is looking here and posting up pics of the coaches under one of his so called user names as usual,trying to keep it going but i can't see it lasting long! He has plenty of personalities to keep him company over there for a while! Absolutely superb work David, you can be proud of the way they're shaping up. I think I'll have to stretch the funds for some of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttc0169 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 TTC, One thing about the Hornby mk4s they are to light and the axels are s---t,but with the different coupling it should be ok. Mark Cheers and thanks Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Marks point is correct. The coupling seems to have a lot to do with it as well. One of the first considerations when designing a push pull train was to make sure they would have the best possible reliability when being pushed at speed, especially when you consider that almost every layout has at least 1 sharp curve somewhere on it! The draw bar couplings mean there is minimal chance of a derailment when pushing. Noel, when I do a set for you just ask me to add some weight. I can do that for you no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Looking great David will the kit have pre shaped sides. That other thing I was to sort out for Saturday do you want me to cancel it now your not going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
201bhoy Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 How long do you think you will be doing these for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killucan2 Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 Anto,I busy with work and was ment to bring David up,might get time Sunday to go I get him to pm u and let u know,201 the run will be the same as the 2600 they won't go on forever as we will be moving on to the next model but something can be sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I will probably go down the kit route Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Anto, I meant to PM you about that. Apart from the fact that Mark couldn't head up, I discovered some changes needed to be made to the CAD when I assembled the buffet so I didn't go ahead and assemble the rest of the coaches. I'll have to fix the problem on the CAD for the next lot and make changes by hand to the ones I have already. The kit is most likely to be pre-formed. It's a pain in the arse to bend and even harder to get it to bend in all the right places and we can't have people pulling their hair out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csalem Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Stunning looking model! I may seriously have to consider getting some of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enniscorthyman Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Very impressive work there-fair play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirflick Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 david , that is a superp looking model! have you planned that all the doors will have the ability to open or will it be one door on each coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broithe Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Opening doors? Really? DCC controlled? [video=youtube;-Qm2NTuQimI] 1:30 on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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