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  1. #21
    I am sure I saw some with no ploughs, being dropped off for later use?

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by enniscorthyman View Post
    I did see a few with a single
    plough van Noel.
    I've seen a few photos of ballast trains with single plough vans but the hoppers were always empty, and a lot of those trains appeared to be split rakes. I only recall seeing one photo of a single plough on a loaded train.

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  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by WRENNEIRE View Post
    I am sure I saw some with no ploughs, being dropped off for later use?
    Are you sure they weren't dolomite or gypsum trains, Dave?

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  4. #24
    Could have been Gypsum now that I think of it
    I used to escort explosives to Kingscourt and that may have been where I saw them
    Good detective work Pat

  5. #25
    I was in the cab of a 141 in 1974 , when it collected ballast from queallys quarry at carrolls cross , loads of ballast . no plough van at all !!.

    Ive seen several pictures of a single plough van , the double setup seems to be much later in IR days

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Junctionmad View Post
    I was in the cab of a 141 in 1974 , when it collected ballast from queallys quarry at carrolls cross , loads of ballast . no plough van at all !!.

    Ive seen several pictures of a single plough van , the double setup seems to be much later in IR days
    We have photos on file of CIÉ-era ballast trains with a plough van at either end. The 24850 series plough vans were only introduced in 1978.

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  7. #27
    Regarding ballast rakes there were times that a single plough was used; more often than not if the second one was away for repairs / maintenance. The general principle of having two vans was to negate the need to be able to spread ballast in one direction only; but for most (single lines) it could be overcome by dropping ballast in the direction which the plough was facing. For example if it was planned to drop ballast between Portarlington and Tullamore and the van was at the Tullamore end the train would run laden from Portarlington - Tullamore, run round and then drop going back to Portarlington.

    The ballast hoppers were formed into 3x rakes (known as Sets A, B & C). The usual composition was 15 hoppers & 2x vans. One of the rakes had a former GSWR plough van in the consist (dating from 1906) and although running on a more modern under-frame it was considered the oldest item of rolling stock left running in everyday service on Irish Railways.

  8. #28
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishs...7626841836014/
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishs...in/dateposted/
    These were empty, came in from the east the day before and stabled overnight in the old Ballinrobe platform. The van could well be 24850. I think the last number is a 0

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    Last edited by Irishswissernie; 13-03-2017 at 09:00 AM.

  9. #29
    Great info and pics there men. Have to say I love the plough vans. Make for a lovely model in themselves.
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  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Warbonnet View Post
    Great info and pics there men. Have to say I love the plough vans. Make for a lovely model in themselves.
    Can somebody please explain to me the different provenance of these two plough vans?





    The latter one seems to have a longer wheelbase.

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