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    Beet wagons, what colour were they?

    I've got a a couple of the Bulleid 'double stacked' beet wagon bodies from Shapeways as a 'try out'....

    I've got them all primed...

    But then...

    An obvious question stuck me.

    What colour were they? Where they left in the natural grey galvanised finish? Where they painted red oxide, or was it just rust? The pics I have here don't really make it clear.

    Can you assist me please?

    <- another of my winning smiles!

    -Rob

    ps ...and YES I will add them to my workbench thread with pics and everything! - I'm looking at you at Anto!

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    From my understanding a greyish rusty shade of rust oxide
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Size:  97.6 KBRob I hope these will be of some use. Earthy colors dry brushed on give a very nice representation of a well worked Beet wagon. Think of the effects of the sun and the loading of the Beet and it should give you a more work a day look.

    Rich,

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    Freakin' awesome pics Rich!

    Thanks ever so much!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Davies View Post
    I've got a a couple of the Bulleid 'double stacked' beet wagon bodies from Shapeways as a 'try out'....

    I've got them all primed...

    But then...

    An obvious question stuck me.

    What colour were they? Where they left in the natural grey galvanised finish? Where they painted red oxide, or was it just rust? The pics I have here don't really make it clear.

    Can you assist me please?

    <- another of my winning smiles!

    -Rob

    ps ...and YES I will add them to my workbench thread with pics and everything! - I'm looking at you at Anto!

    All the colours you said above mate and loads and loads of dirt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Davies View Post
    Freakin' awesome pics Rich!

    Thanks ever so much!

    You're welcome Rob. Any advice you get and you will get plenty here put it to use and you will find something that works best for yourself. Please post some pics of your wagons when they are finished, I bet they'll look great.

    Rich,

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    Robert - if you mean those corrugated-sided ones, when single-storey (as it were!) they were as seen above - an aluminiumy colour - probably originally unpainted? Latterly, when double stacked, I think I saw some in the standard all over brown, but I could not be sure. The all-over nondescript grey/dirt is the best option. Sometimes they had a smear of brown paint under the number on the chassis. However, if you mean beet wagons in general, until the mid 70s standard wooden-planked open wagons were also to be seen. The further back you go, the more of those would be needed. The wooden bodied wagons used on such traffic would also have faded flying snails well into the '70s, and were all standard CIE wagon grey, all over - no black ironwork, chassis or wheels! In the last few years of beet, when containerisation was experimented with, the containers were in standard bogie flats - all brown, of course.

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    Thanks again everyone for the assistance and notes - I've been experimenting with a few ideas regarding base coat, and then drybrushing - I should have a pic of some description up sometime over the weekend to show where I've got up to.

    -Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Davies View Post
    Thanks again everyone for the assistance and notes - I've been experimenting with a few ideas regarding base coat, and then drybrushing - I should have a pic of some description up sometime over the weekend to show where I've got up to.

    -Rob
    Sounds good Rob, look forward to seeing them.

    Rich,

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    A representation... On a shortened Dapol 12ft chassis.

    Base Colour for the chassis, bauxite.

    After scrubbing and cleaning up the Shapeways body, I coated it with 'Mr Surfacer 1200' http://www.spruemart.co.uk/index.php...id=44&Itemid=1 then gave a thin, almost a wash coat of Revell enamel No.87, and drybrushed the top half with Precision Paints 'sleeper grime'. Just before it was all dry I treated the upper half again with Tamiya weathering powders 'rust', and the lower half with Tamiya powders 'sand'.

    I'll probably put some of Weshty's number and maintenance patches on it when it's cured out properly.

    -Rob

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